Structural anomaly northeast from Arabia Terra

[George J. Haas]

Hello Convex.

I understand that your original vision of the Template structure has imprinted on you mind and you may have difficulty in seeing the bat head, so I am working on a drawing of the Template Bat Head for your review...(should be ready by Monday)

Despite our independent analysis of the template structure, we both perceive it as artificial and we both agree that the dark eastern side may be an entrance.

We also agree that anomalous formations are never alone. And the two additional structures that you have identified again - like the Bat Head also appear to be geoglyphic in design.

Beginning with the lower structure you have labeled "candidate b".



I see a sliced conch shell.

In Maya creation mythology, as stated earlier, the bat was associated with the Underworld, as is the conch shell. The conch shell was used to summon the spirits from the Underworld.

The following two images are provided as comparisons to your "candidate b".

The first is a Maya sliced conch shell.



The next is a picture of a sliced conch shell created by land artists Andrew Rogers.



Your thoughts...

GHJ

[George J. Haas]

Here is my analytical drawing of the template formation (rotated and inverted).



Notice the bat-like facial features include an eye, a muzzle (with a snarling, feline aspect), an erect leaf form attached to the nose and the large ear with plume-like membrane.

Are you able to see the facial features now?

GJH

[convex]

Yes, I can see what you see. But I do not associate this formation with something that resembles a mesoamerican glyph in shape of a bat-like face. At the moment I can not detach the possibility that the pareidolia effect is strongly present here. But this can, of course, also be the case to our own interpretation. Just in the appearance of a geometric pattern. Our current research now focuses on earthly counterparts that must have the complete identical geometry, size and orientation, and that have at the same a particular symbolic meaning.

I have now started to participate with the first couple of people in the Hiwish program. The target is the one that I have mentioned spontaneously "Candidate B". We have deliberately left open to what we are dealing here because of the low resolution CTX image. But it's no problem to give this structure a more concise name. No one would remember what Candidate B was after a longer time. So let's call this one the conch. Finally some geologists and planetary scientists do this in the same way.

The specification of a target in the Hiwish procedure, however, requires some patience. It was not trivial to determine the exact position of the conch on the map. The handling is a bit fiddly. We have set the coordinates by using the built-in map on the following values: 25,520 °N, 61,845 °E
More precise values were not possible. We will see what will happen and see whether this is a feasible way or not

To increase the chances the participant is prompted to provide accurate information. This includes a self-assessment of the geological assignment. Any mentions towards the possibility of an artificial structure would certainly be counterproductive.

Further suggestions for the same target are now submitted at different times - by recruiting real users. Objectively speaking, there is a real interest behind it. The whole should take place as legitimate as possible.

I wonder how many people have already suggested the Cydonia face. Do they still consider such suggestions? Probably not.

[George J. Haas]

Hi Convex. Setting my observations of the facial features within the Template structure aside...I am confident that my analytical drawing is an accurate representation of the structures outer contours and interior morphology.

:-)

GJH

[convex]

Yes, of course. I hope it does not make the impression that I would exclude all other views. Should it appear like that, then I would like to put it in the right context. A scientific study requires the examination of all possible theories that are present. A colleague of mine compares it with the gathering and composing of puzzle pieces. Several pieces can fit together and produce over time the big picture. We just do not know how the big picture looks like.

I'm trying to figure out, how long it take to make such an analytical drawing. It would surely take one or two hours for me to make something in that kind. I remember that I have also used the procedure of analytical drawing for an anomaly within a region in Aram Chaos. The result was the depiction of something that represents a dragon-like creature. To that time, we still didn't know, that the dragon was one of the oldest mythological beings in
our cultural history. Interestingly, one of the few mythological creatures that can be found worldwide with almost the same characteristics. In the later stages we realized that the categorization of dragons and creatures that are derived from this figure is highly complex. The feathered serpent, the winged serpent,
the sphinx, the griffin, the dragon according to old Babylonian definition, according to the ancient Greek culture, to the Mesoamerican cultures, and so on, and so on. Ancient symbols and mythologies, which presumably have their true origin in a much older, "foreign" culture.

[George J. Haas]

Here is a side by side comparison of two aerial views of sliced Conch Shell geoglyphs.

The first image (on the left) was produced by an unknown culture on Mars.
The second image (on the right) was produced by sculptor Andrew Rogers in the Arava Desert.

Convex, have you located the CTX source image for the Martian Conch Shell?

GJH

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[starjim]

I think I will have to throw a curve ball here. if you look at the entire area around the feature, it becomes clear that this is a meteor crater. The objects being focused on are the result of upheaval at the center of the crater. The crater itself is also 80% filled in with dust and sand etc.

I also looked at the feature itself and I have to ask why all the analysis so far excludes the large wall? Sorry I love this stuff and want every feature to be anomalous, but this one looks like a meteor strike to me.

[convex]

Hi George,
the ID that has been assigned for this CTX image is: P15_007029_2054_XN_25N298W

Apparently there are no more images in a better resolution showing this region.

Hi starjim,
it's completely okay, if you recognizes something completely natural.
Well, your description is a little bit unspecific for me. I just want to be sure, are you referring to the "conch" structure?
If yes, is the round structure in your opinion the impact crater or is the whole structure the central upheaval of a larger crater?
And which part is meant by "large wall"? The upper part of the structure respectively both sides of the tip or just one side?

[George J. Haas]

Here is a comparison between the shell formation on Mars with a terrestrial gastropod shell.


Note the crater-like opening feature on the gastropod shell.

Looks a lot like the Martian shell formation.


What do you think?

GJH