An archaeological discovery in Atlantis Chaos.

[Javed Raza]

Maybe it's my imagination, but I am seeing area marked F in mjcraig's post above as possibly a large rectangle or a square with boundaries marked in a messy way in the image below, please excuse my amateurish attempt at archeology, my expertise is business management   There also appears to be a partial Octagon to the right of figure marked H in mjcraig's post. 

[mjcraig]

What you see is what you see Javed, my delineations are just a guide and by no means definitive. I would say that only George's triangular feature is a given.

[gregorme]

Aug 9, 2019 14:53:22 GMT -5 George J. Haas said:

Hi Greg, welcome to the discussion. Could you post examples of the four mound/archology formations that are in your book for comparison and review?

Thanks,

GJH

I will have to look them up, I recognize formation A from it and the others. There are about 6 large areas of these large rocks, I loosely called them cities about 10 years ago. Someone on the MSNBC space bulletin board, to give you an idea of how old this is, was a geologist and posted an image that looked artificial like this. Interestingly it was the only image I ever found that seems to have been tampered with. It was an MOC image, the .IMG files were raw and had streaks along them from the solar wind. They took the picture slowly like a photocopier and the solar wind made variations in each line of pixels. Then it had to be cleaned up, but this .IMG file had no streaks. 

So I watched these areas ever since then, I mentioned this area a few times on SPSR but there weren't many MOC images of these formations. When I was writing my books I went through all these areas and downloaded all the HiRise images on these rocks, quite a lot have these wall like structures and they all went in my books. 

I found a few other HiRise images that have come out since publication, also I have been requesting a lot of them. My hypothesis is most of these large rocks had habitats on them. Just North of this there was a large lake as claimed by NASA, so these were very near water. Also south of these are enormous numbers of parabolic dams. I would have over 500 images of this area in my book, I call it Cymmeria as that is the name given to it anyway. 

I'm going to be posting more of these recent images over the next week, here is a link to a recent one. You might prefer to post some of the individual images. It's not the best of them but there are some interesting structures. This one is interesting because it is very similar to an aerial view of Mount Sharp where the rover is, Gale Crater would have been on the north side of this lake. I'll post the Mount Sharp image later. 

Here is my Facebook post of the "city" area back on July 19, 2019.

[Javed Raza]

Close-up of an area of image marked "I" in mjcraig post above dated Aug 10, 2019 at 7.46 AM.  A triangular cavity is observed with geometric formations inside.


Figure 28

[gregorme]

This is from my first book draft, there are some more pictures from this HiRise image. 471 wall formations.pdf (751.32 KB) I ended up only putting a few images from this in the book which was published around March 2018, there was so much in the area. If you look at the book draft before this image there are a lot of others like it. I didn't go into some images with the attention they deserve, I was trying to cover the whole of Mars to make a global hypothesis. So it's not so much about an individual area but comparing it to other areas for similarities, that implies trading. It also makes these less likely to occur by chance if they are found in many areas. There re about 3000 images referenced in the books so it was a big undertaking. But I was trying to prove what is going on, for my own understanding too.

I mentioned a lot of these formations on Gary's radio show recently, you might be able to see the images on his web page. It was quite an interesting discussion about the whole area, Gary was quite amazed by it. 

This is from the same image in my book draft from page 35. martians.life/Martiangeometry2.pdf

My other point was, I had recently posted a collection of images from a Hirise nearby as link. Perhaps you would like to start another thread on it. If the link doesn't work, it's not working for me, here it is. Just add a h on the left hand end. ttps://www.facebook.com/crownedface/posts/2304308009653904?__tn__=C-R

[mjcraig]

Aug 12, 2019 13:06:12 GMT -5 Javed Raza said:

Close-up of an area of image marked "I" in mjcraig post above dated Aug 10, 2019 at 7.46 AM.  A triangular cavity is observed with geometric formations inside.


Figure 28

The top side of the triangle follows a ridge which continues left and right either side of it, making the triangle probably a geological quirk. However geometric formations are certainly apparent both within it and beyond it to the right. The crucial question of course is "Are we merely looking at the remnants of cuboid/square eroded geology as dominates this landscape? Or, are we also seeing perhaps, the ruins of structures and walls that happen to be embedded in this region too? A detectives discernment required!

[Javed Raza]

I find the arrowhead shape intriguing and quite unusual, and so I have been looking for an Earthly reference and it took a while, but have found one instance of it at a pre-Columbian archaeological site called Monte Albán that resembles an arrowhead and points south west.  The image below ( figure 29) presents a comparison between Arrowhead and C formation (Labeled C in figure 5) from Mars and similar looking formations at Monte Alban archeological site on Earth.  If you look closer the C formation from Mars appears to be sectioned vertically similar to the one from Monte Alban.


Figure 29
                                                            
       
Monte Alban archeological site below.  It's interesting the arrowhead and D formations on Mars are located close together with the Arrowhead leading the D, and the Arrowhead and the formation that resembles formation D are close together at Monte Alban where the Arrowhead leads the "D"

           
Figure 30

[gregorme]

I don't think the overall structure is likely to be artificial, though in some cases the external shape may have been modified. They may be large hills of volcanic ash, this would erode much more quickly. Also it is easier to work with, many ancient buildings on earth were made with bricks from volcanic ash. Some of the shapes may have been rooms carved out of solid blocks of ash, perhaps some of the walls could be made from bricks.

I've been posting examples of possible bricks where hills have terrace shapes, these are similar to terraces in Asia for rice paddies. They are formed by small brick like shapes, a few meters in size with little variation, and all pointing in the same directions. I also found some of these bricks very close to these walled formations in Cymmeria. That links the hypothesis of bricks and volcanic ash to these formations.

If there is a plausible construction technique then they are more likely to be artificial. It's unlikely granite or basalt could have been carved into walls and rooms. Sandstone is another possibility though that would be sedimentary rock such as in the pyramids, that would be unlikely to be found on hills like this away from water .         

These images show some of the brick like shapes, the right image is in a dam shape. It's highly likely that building walls like these would use bricks but the resolution is not high enough. Look for gaps along a wall where the joins between bricks are eroding. 

[Javed Raza]

Structures casting geometric shadows south of the "city".   Location marked with an orange dot appears to have an overhang and a formation is seen extending from inside of it, there also appear to be a compound like circular clearing in front of this structure. 


Figure 30

Location of above figure 30 is shown below marked with an orange dot on map of Atlantis Chaos, it lies just under the orange dot. 

ESP_019103_1460

[George J. Haas]

Here is a look at the formation labeled C, in figure 5, that shows the group of polygonal mound/archologies observed within the northern section of the Martian Atlantis Complex (Figure 31).


Figure 31
Double Temple Platform (highlighted)
Detail MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010)

Notice the ruined remains of a pair of oval-shaped square mounds sitting on a rectangular platform.

GJH

[George J. Haas]

Javed found a comparable Mayan temple platform at Monte Alban (Figure 29) that looks very similar to the Double Temple Platform on Mars (Figure 32).



Figure 32
Temple Platform
Left:Double Temple Platform
Archology/Mound labeled C - Martian Atlantis Complex
Right: Central Temple Platform (Buildings G,H,and I) Monte Alban

GJH

[Javed Raza]

Close up of the dark shadowy area on the right side of "double temple platform" on Mars (Figure 31) Incredible geometric detail is visible upon brightening up this area, some this may be partly due to pixelization, but some in my present view are actual geometric formations.  


Figure 33
Double Temple Platform (right side of it)
Detail MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010)

[Javed Raza]

I was browsing through the thread ****Hollow Hills on Mars*** and on the third page noticed an image, attached below (Figure 34), that looks the same as the "Arrowhead" formation seen in Atlantis Chaos in this thread.  Arrowheads are rare on Earth as on Mars and according to one thoery they serve as pointing to something sacred. 
thecydoniainstitute.proboards.com/thread/124/hollow-hills-on-mars?page=3


Figure 34
Image from "Hollow hills on Mars" thread page 3

[gregorme]

Aug 16, 2019 19:17:35 GMT -5 Javed Raza said:

I was browsing through the thread ****Hollow Hills on Mars*** and on the third page noticed an image, attached below, that looks the same as the "Arrowhead" formation seen in Atlantis Chaos in this thread.  Arrowheads are rare on Earth as on Mars and according to one thoery they serve as pointing to something sacred. 
thecydoniainstitute.proboards.com/thread/124/hollow-hills-on-mars?page=3


Image from "Hollow hills on Mars" thread page 3

I found this one as well, the roof seems to be collapsing. Many of these hollow hills have parabolic corners. Because that is a shape used in engineering it is less likely to be natural.

[George J. Haas]

Here is a comparison of the Hollow Hills, Arrow Head formation and the Arrow Head mound/archology at Atlantis Chaos (Figure 35). Very similar...



Figure 35
Arrow Head comparison
Left: Hollow Hills
Right: Atlantis Chaos

GJH