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Post by George J. Haas on Aug 19, 2019 9:05:35 GMT -5
Here is how I see the shapes and forms of the polygonal features observed within the Southern Complex of Atlantis Chaos (Figure 36) as compared to what Michael Craig submitted. Figure 36 Southern Complex of Polygonal Features Left: Michael J. Craig Right: George J. Haas GJH
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Post by Javed Raza on Aug 19, 2019 10:59:19 GMT -5
Here is a comparison of Atlantis Chaos, Arrowhead mound; Hollow Hills, Arrowhead formation and the Arrowhead structure at Monte Alban, figure 37. Figure 37 Arrowhead comparison A: Atlantis Chaos B: Hollow Hills C: Monte Alban
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Post by williamsaunders on Aug 22, 2019 13:12:39 GMT -5
Javed Raza's "city" is very interesting as the grid pattern is smaller and well defined in the area that could be by the former edge of a water body. As you move outward, the grid patterning gets larger. This fits with most urban settings as the busiest areas are more concentrated, and as you move away, you get the larger settings of acreages, farms, industrial, etc. This larger grid pattern is also not as sharp or well defined suggesting it could have been abandoned sooner due to hard times and the population concentrating in the urban center.
The geometric structures are also very interesting as they all seem to have a "walled" outline to them. These "walls" run in different directions indicating that they were either constructed or that they are remnants of geologic intrusions. I don't, however, notice anything within them that looks constructed. The faint grid lines within could be horizontal and vertical fracturing.
Great find Javed Raza and an area well worth more study.
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Post by Javed Raza on Aug 24, 2019 17:34:03 GMT -5
Javed Raza's "city" is very interesting as the grid pattern is smaller and well defined in the area that could be by the former edge of a water body. As you move outward, the grid patterning gets larger. This fits with most urban settings as the busiest areas are more concentrated, and as you move away, you get the larger settings of acreages, farms, industrial, etc. This larger grid pattern is also not as sharp or well defined suggesting it could have been abandoned sooner due to hard times and the population concentrating in the urban center. The geometric structures are also very interesting as they all seem to have a "walled" outline to them. These "walls" run in different directions indicating that they were either constructed or that they are remnants of geologic intrusions. I don't, however, notice anything within them that looks constructed. The faint grid lines within could be horizontal and vertical fracturing. Great find Javed Raza and an area well worth more study. Thanks Williamsaunders, What is holding the "city" back from having a larger impact is the uncertainty as to whether the gridded structures, despite them showing sufficient depth, are natural formations. What is needed in my view is people with backgrounds in digital image processing and geology to take this up for further analysis, thank you for your comments.
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Post by starjim on Aug 27, 2019 10:08:28 GMT -5
MJCraig I wanted to comment on the measurements side of your post.
First I always want to know the size of structures. Many posters simply make observations and when the object is actually measured it can and often does change the observation. What I struggle with is picking the start and ending points and like you have mentioned, realize that others will "see" different aspects that change the overall sizing. In the case of these very detailed images a pixel here or there is extremely important. With MGS for example a pixel would be 6' to 10' at the better resolutions. Now resolutions are vastly improved.
So looking at your measurements above the B, D and G structures hold the most interest for me. George Haas saw both similarly shaped. This is when an old partner Wil Faust who was a city planner would come in very handy, regarding the relationships between the structures. I looked at structures C & D and think one could even make a case for them being one large building. I do see G as a partial triangle, I think the long tip is actually squared off, and doesn't come to a point.
Let's look at locations like Maya ruins or Teotihuacan. We see one or two centrally located structures usually about the same size as the anchor points. The rest of the structures are downsized, the purpose being to not diminish the importance of the main structures.
On Mars itself we have Cydonia which features many structures that in and of themselves exhibit mathematical relationships and the Golden Mean is a main aspect of the structures and the groupings. Like you say, that is for actual mathematicians to measure and interpret.
In this case we see structures that are generally of two sizes: 1/2 mile and 1 mile in size across the longest points, using your image and measurements. Mars seems to love big buildings and this area is no exception.
My comment on a relationship between the buildings due to a potentially repeating size, simply would be, that is the size Martians commonly build. Makes me think of the Nifilim, Marduk etc. biblical giants. Nice observations overall, thanks for that work.
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Post by George J. Haas on Sept 5, 2019 8:07:04 GMT -5
Here is a comparison of the Atlantic Chaos City complex with an ancient Mayan city that was discovered in Petén, Guatemala, in 2015 (Figure 38). Notice the city complex is built within a grid design that contains conical and flat-topped pyramids...dating to around 600 BC. Figure 38 Grid City comparison Left:Atlantic Chaos Right: Petén, Guatemala GJH
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Post by Javed Raza on Sept 5, 2019 9:06:23 GMT -5
I have been looking for an earthly reference to the "tessellation" observed in the terrain that rises above the City grid. "The site of Kemune on the eastern Tigris can be dated to the time of the Mittani Empire, which dominated large parts of northern Mesopotamia and Syria from the 15th to the 14th century BCE, decreasing water levels in the Mosul Dam reservoir due to draughts unexpectedly brought to light remains of an ancient city. The area had been flooded following the construction of the Mosul Dam in the mid-1980s." Figure 39 City tessellation comparison Top: Atlantis Chaos Bottom: kemune Palace
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Post by Javed Raza on Sept 5, 2019 9:42:07 GMT -5
Here is another comparison of the Atlantis Chaos City grid with a 9,000-year-site in Motza near Jerusalem. Figure 40 Grid City comparison Top: Atlantis Chaos Bottom: Motza, Israel
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Post by George J. Haas on Sept 18, 2019 8:46:00 GMT -5
Returning back to the Northern Complex of Atlantis Chaos I direct your attention to a triangle-shaped pyramidal formation with a bow-tie shaped ramp (Figure 41). Figure 41 Triangle Pyramid with Bow-Tie Ramp Notated with circle. Detail MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010) Here is a comparison with an outlined guide (Figure 42). Notice the triangular-shaped formation appears to be conjoined with a bow-tie formation, that extends out like a ramp. Figure 42 Triangle Pyramid with Bow-Tie Ramp Left:Triangle Pyramid with Bow-Tie Ramp Detail MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010) Right: Outlined GJH
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Post by Javed Raza on Sept 30, 2019 18:30:00 GMT -5
Here is an updated enhancement of the City in Atlantis Chaos. Figure 43 MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010)
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Post by George J. Haas on Oct 14, 2019 14:54:41 GMT -5
A large face (Figure 44) has been discovered just above the "city" complex by independent researcher Ennio Piccaluga. Figure 44 City Face GJH
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Post by Javed Raza on Oct 15, 2019 9:46:47 GMT -5
The left eye of the City Face shows a round detail. The right eye does not appear to match the size or the style of the left eye. Figure 45 City face
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Post by Javed Raza on Oct 15, 2019 11:18:38 GMT -5
A metric grid of the City, each square is one by one metre, this was sent to me by Neville Thompson. According to this the City Face is 3 by 3 metres. Figure 46 MRO HiRISE ESP_019103_1460 (2010)
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Post by George J. Haas on Oct 17, 2019 8:21:11 GMT -5
The facial features of the mask found near the city at Atlantis Chaos appears to have Mesoamerican aspects. Here is a comparison with two Pre-Columbian masks (Figure 47). Figure 47 Comparison of Atlantis Chaos Mask with mesoamerican masks Left:Mayan mask Center:Atlantis Chaos Mask Right:Teotihuacan stone mask Notice the flat forehead of the first mask on the left and the horizontal "flayed" bands on the second mask on the right. GJH
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Post by George J. Haas on Oct 17, 2019 8:50:28 GMT -5
Hi Javed.
As I measure the Atlantis Chaos Mask - it is about 30 meters wide and 50 meters in length (including chin and forehead). That's about 98 feet wide and 164 feet in length. To get a better perspective, note the head of George Washington at Mount Rushmore is only 60 feet tall.
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